hi folks,
i recently introduced myself to this group with the query that my new beardie seemed to be struggling to cope with relocation.......if only that were the problem.....
i got masses of support and brilliant advice here...thank-you rick....
(rambling) update...i have been up all night too upset to sleep....
over the last few days i saw minor tremors in little mans left forefoot and in his head. i said to my son that i thought little man had mbd. i have had only one beardie before so have little experience with the species....but..... i read extensively...esp i read *before* i took on my first beardie ... and being from a healthcare background *and* being a person who has had osteomalacia herself (the best human equivalent to mbd i can imagine) i did feel i was sensible enough to understand what a beardie needed to keep him well.....i now know also what signs to look out for to ensure i don't take on a less than healthy beardie again - having learned the hard way.
before my vet appt yesterday am, i spoke again to lizard man to ask about the prev husbandry - i knew my vet would need as much info on his prev care as possible......lizard mans husbandry was poor because the dragon was effectively not getting uv light because his uv was being filtered through glass - no amount of supplementation makes up for this - esp when the sole diet due to little beardies fussiness was phosphate rich, calcium binding, meal worms. it's also likely that the husbandry prior to lizard man taking on beardie was poor. the vet pointed out that little mans tail which i had noticed was rounder at the tip than most beardies tails, showed signs of less than adequate bone health from an early age - vet thought the tip had been broken off at some stage. beardie was also missing half of one of his very long toes. i thought he might have been fighting, but it now looks more likely that it was broken due to poor bone density.
anyhow, the bottom line is that little man did *not* have a dedicated uv light in his viv. his uv provision was through glass!!!!!!! i am at this point trying to contain my anger.......it will do no good....... little man lived with lizard man for six months, and showed no actual signs of growth in that time....yet lizard man never considered that this runting had a cause!!!!!.....
when i phoned lizard man to tell him that little man had mbd his comment was....'but he was fine with me'......
i tried to explain to lizard man that prey animals (which i believe beardies are in the wild) can appear really well till they are at deaths door, but lizard man seemed resistant to any implication that i was not the cause of little mans problems.....when i politely asked lizard man, in the light of what has happened, to ensure that his other bearded dragon has a uv tube IN her viv and not through the glass he snapped at me 'of course she has her own uv light!!!! so if he knows how important it is for his adult beardie, why did he not provide the same for his juvenile beardie??
at the vets appt it was confirmed that little man had mbd and that it was at an advanced stage.
vet prescribed intense feed and mega calcium.....by tube.... she told us little man had very little chance, but we could try to save him. we were told if no improvement in 2 weeks he had to be euthanised .....we got him home and tube fed him once.....no problem.... and he seemed ok after second tube feed in the later afternoon, but when i went to check on him 15 mins later he was in a horrid position in viv....not natural....and he had vomited up feed....he then had a fit and looked dead....totally limp and droopy.....
we took him back to vet who said he was 'just' alive, but that if he was fitting, his calcium levels were too low to be survivable and that he he needed to be euthanised right away.....
i love my pets, i trust my vet, i had to agree.... i could see he was not in a survivable situation and i didn't want him to suffer any more.......
......i didn't get to know little man as he was sick and anorexic within 12 hours of me getting him, so it shouldn't hurt so much to lose him.....but it does...........
i haven't yet told reptile man that dragon has died....but i have to let him know....i must try to do so without the anger i'm feeling......
reptile man wasn't willing to accept that his husbandry regarding uv provision is poor....he doesn't need to admit to me that his care was less than optimal, but if he doesn't admit it to himself, he will make the same error again and other reptiles will suffer.....
my heart is breaking at the loss of a second beardie in 3 weeks....little man did not go easily...it was truly horrific seeing him fit...i've lost many pets over my lifetime, but rarely have i had to go through such a distressing experience as i did watching little man deteriorate and die.......and it was so avoidable.....and reptile man keeps implying that as little man was alert when he brought him to me that any health issues are my fault........i know that my care is not what led to little mans demise....
lessons learned from this sad experience are that i know much better what seemingly innocuous signs can point to a beardie in less that optimal health, so my next beardie will hopefully be a healthy one, and that the new vet at my surgery who specialises in exotics is knowledgeable and supportive.
thanks for listening to my rambling....
take care joy x
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