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 Post subject: Buddy's a girl!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:00 pm 
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So took my lil guy to the vets as he's been off his food majorly for a few weeks.

Turns out he's a she!! I'm amazed!! I got buddy when she was 6 weeks and is now 2 1/2 !

Vet said she's starting to produce eggs and that's why she's off her food, so I'm syringe feeding water and baby food.

It's so strange I've been thinking of her as a him for so long.
She's a big girl so Buddy is now known as Bonnie haha

Anyone any tips on how I can make her any more comfortable though? She hasn't fully developed the eggs yet ( she was x-rayed yesterday) the vet said she may not actually produce the eggs but then again she may.
Quite confused never had to deal with this before.

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 Post subject: Re: Buddy's a girl!!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:13 am 
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Wouldn't expect her to go off food until the last week before laying when there's no room left! Basically you need high protein and lots of calcium - the occasional pinkie mouse helps here.It should take around 4 weeks from when the follicles start to develop until she's ready to lay at which time she'll get restless and trash the viv finding somewhere to lay. Check out section on breeding for help in the laying area but obviously dump the eggs after if she hasn't been with a male.

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The vet says the follicles have become stuck making her uncomfortable, she has been glass dancing for a while now, and just runs around my flat like a women gone mad when I let her out. Do you think she's looking for somewhere to lay?
Il check the breeding section out now thanks for that.

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 Post subject: Re: Buddy's a girl!!
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She won't be ready to lay until the eggs are fully formed - you should be able to feel something like grapes running down each side. Is your vet a reptile specialist? Stuck follicles can lead to problems if they don't re-absorb or develop properly. What advice were you given regarding on-going treatment etc?

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Yeah he's a specialist he's brilliant with reps. I found him before I got my chameleon.

He's told me to try and get baby good and water in her through a syringe ( which is going great) and to call him tomorrow and tell him what she's eat and how she is.
If she hasn't eat and drank as much as he thinks is okay then we are back in tomorrow.
If she has then we are back mid next week for another X-ray.
We are both hoping the follicles will re absorb as he said if the eggs do develope she may have problems with them.

He mentioned spading her if needed but said that it is a very risky procedure that he will try and do everything to make sure she doesn't need it.

I'm keeping a diary of her food and water intake, and her general behaviour, in hope I can give him as much info on the phone tomorrow.

She isn't happy in her Viv at the moment though, all she wants to do is run around my flat. Do you think she is looking for a potential lay area? As I have thought she was a boy for the past 2 and a half years she is just on a slab of sandstone in the Viv to avoid impaction.

I have put a lil sand in today so that when I see her digging in it il know. ( if it comes to that )

At the moment my main concern is the fact she's been off her food for 3 weeks, hense the X-rays at the vets in the first place. But I can't stop worrying we are going to have problems with the stuck follicles. Is there anything I can do to help this? The vet said not but I feel hopeless for the poor lil thing.


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The vet is correct - there's nothing you can do to help other than follow his instructions. Spaying is risky but a much better option than leaving non-absorbed follicles in her. We've had it done to one of our dragons with no problems at all. Sounds as if you've got one of the good vets out there so listen and follow his advice.

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Okay, I'm calling him at 12 today, hopefully we don't have to go back till next week for another X-ray.

Yeah he is brilliant, he has 2 practises, one is an hour away for
Me but il travel to see him every time. My Chameleon hated people, but loved him, would just crawl over him ha.

Il keep you updated on her, fingers crossed they will become unstuck and just re absorb.

Nice to hear that you've had one spade before, I've been reading a few horror stories to be honest.

Thanks for the hell and advise Rick

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A lot of the horror stories are probably more due to the problem not being recognised soon enough and in this case I wouldn't expect any problems as your guy seems well on top of it.

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I do feel she's in safe hands with him. And another plus is he doesn't really charge a lot at all, he loves reptiles, and only ever charges me for hamster consultations.
Buddy had 2 consultations, 5 X-rays and was kept at the vets for 3 hours under the lights and heater in the back and I was charged £40

He was with an emergency patient (hate hearing that) when I called so he's going to call me back as soon as he can.

By the way the last post was supposed to say thanks for the help not hell haha

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Sounds like you've got an excellent vet! Can't believe what you've been charged.

When my girl laid eggs she was tearing round the Viv, sand flying everywhere for about a week before she laid. She was fairly plump and I didn't know she was pregnant. It was her behaviour that gave it away!

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Yeah he's brilliant. Unfortunately he's not been able to call back tonight as he's had to take a snake into emergency surgery. Hoping the poor things okay. Il ask him tomorrow.

It's brilliant how cheap he is. Bud has always had problems shedding the inside of her eye lid, and he told me to just get blinks which is an eye drop for dry eyes for humans. He said it's just a water based lubricant, just the same as any pricy thing he could give me. It works brilliantly and only £2.50 haha

And when I bought my Cham he had MBD, Mr Fraiser helped me nurse him back to help for £3.50 a visit. The most I ever paid was £45 for 3 X-rays and blood tests

I've not managed to get any food down her really today, a pitiful .4ml of carrot and water.
Think I'm going to just take her back tomorrow or Monday depending how we get on in the morning.

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So we been back to the vets for another X-ray and not much movement at all.

The follicles haven't started to develope or reabsorb so we are still in limbo.

She eat a few worms on Sunday and a few this morning so on that note it is a little better. Plus the baby food and water I have been syringe feeding her.

The vet has given me some royal canin recovery food for her and we are booked back in for a month for another check up and X-ray. Hopefully by then it will just be an all clear or she will have layed.

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Fingers crossed for you.

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Thanks.

She seems to be starting to eat a lot more these past few days so hopefully they are re-absorbing.

Any time I feel she needs it Fraiser has told me to take her back, but if she stays how she is, eating bits, and I only take her back in a month, and she does need to be spade, am I just opening her up to a world of problems? I've read in lots of places spading is best done early as possible.

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I'm no vet so I really can't help as far as delaying the op. is concerned. However I believe that the problems only arise if follicles burst in situ. The problem with internet investigation is that you'll speak with lots of people who either don't know what they're talking about, have had bad experiences due to waiting to long, have a vet who isn't right up to date on reptiles or occasionally someone who actually has some idea! I'd stick with your guy's advice with one proviso - if she seems to go down hill at all then immediately get her round to see him.

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