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 Post subject: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:42 am 
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I've just come across this and feel that it provides an excellent run-down on lighting needs and how to get the best for you rep.

http://www.ivis.org/journals/exoticDVM/9-3/Brames.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:44 am 
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Great article has given me plenty to think about! Thanks :D

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
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Ahhh !!!!

intersting link Rick, I am looking at building a new viv and was wondering what the best lighting/heat bulbs I should be using. Any help would be welcomed.

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If you can get it, the Arcadia 12% is probably the one of the best strip lights at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
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That link won't open for me :(


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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
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WorksOK for me. You're not using Google Chrome are you? It seems to have a problem with pdf'a at times.

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Useful link cheers Rick


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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Hi,

So we have been doing all the research on bearded dragon and have now made the jump to get one, I'm currently gathering all the materials for my set up.

One question is on lighting, I bought a Vivexotic large vivarium and the shop also sold me the lighting, I have a T8 Hagen Glo Light Controller 1x40W and a Exo-Terra Repto Glo 10.0 tube.

Reading on here I was thinking of changing the bulb to the Arcadia 12%, question is does it work with the T8 controller, I'm confused as to the difference between T8 and T5.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:05 pm 
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The T8 should go with the T8 controller (the diameter is wider) The T5 is quite narrow as I have one and it needs a T5 controller. If you get reflectors as well that increases the UVA/UVB output. Also you need R80 basking lamp (1-99 from Tesco etc) a lot cheaper :D pet shops want to make the best sales and if you check on here the experts will tell you the cheapest and best :D also look at members discounts as can save you some money :D

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Thanks very much.

After all that I found the link on UV where it explains T5 and T8 is tube diameter !


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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:42 am 
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I have an 18" high Vivarium and have a question about the best uv tube to fit. I was thinking about the Acardia 12% T8 tube, any advice about this would be most gratefully received, also how high above the ground should this be positioned?
Many thanks for any help. We are just starting to put together a Vivarium so I may be asking some more questions. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:32 am 
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Have a look at this specifically the section at the end regarding the T5 from Arcadia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUu24MNO2Ho I'm thinking that this would probably suit your set up quite well.

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:17 am 
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Can someone help me with a dilemma regarding a T5 Slimline Luminaire system I was just sent by Arcadia to replace my faulty T8 unit (upgraded to a T5 at my request). I didn't realise that it would come with a built in reflector and this is a bone of contention on the facebook forum I usually get advice from.

This kit was specifically recommended by Arcadia for my viv which is a VX48 "We will be sending a 39w D3+ system to you which is the ideal one for your size viv. As you may have read in my work in the magazines the provision of a useable photogradient is essential. This simply means using a high power system over a portion of an enclosure and leaving the rest as a gradual gradient into shade.

This is very easy. Simply fit the lighting starting at the hot end. My hot zone is always to the left so in my case I would fit the lamp as far into the left as poss. This will then provide a high power zone over 34” of the viv. Then as the temps drops down towards the right of the viv so will the level of light.

You then use your decoration to create a vertical increase in power. So you use rocks and branches under the lamp at the hottest point so that the dragon can elevate its position and as such increase its own exposure to within 10-12” of the lamp. self regulation is the key to the full completion of the D3 cycle.
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However the group I belong to advise that beardies should never be able to get within 20 inches of a T5 with a reflector or will suffer bad health as a result. The reason they gave is "the uvi would be too high, anything over 7 would cause eye problems and in the wild a beardie would be heading for the shade when the levels were such. Arcadia are trying to recreate 'the wild' however, they are not accounting for the fact that our babies are in 4 foot tanks with no full escape from the uv rays. They are setting out to create the MAXIMUM level that a beardie would have in the wild but have forgotten to take account of the fact that dragons would not be seen basking at this level. Its a risk you would rather not take" and "the T5 at 12" is 90µW/cm² and has UVI 3.0, a reflector on a T5 makes it around 150% more powerful so you can see that would be no good".

Before I go back to Arcadia with this feedback I wondered if anyone here has much experience & can offer any further feedback?

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:36 am 
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Good series of points here but I'd dispute the strength/distance figures. If you watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUu24MNO2Ho the last section deals specifically with the Arcadia T5 12% with reflector and the figures shown are all produced by Frances Baines who is acknowledged to be a leading expert on UV for reptiles. Her own figure show that a safe distance for sun worshippers would be in the range of 12" although no mention is made of time exposure. I do have contacts in her specific UV group and my own vet is also a rep. specialist so before worrying too much I'd suggest you either hold off fitting or maybe only run the light for 5 hrs a day. Meanwhile I'll check my sources for some professional advice on this subject.

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 Post subject: Re: Lighting - Must Read
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:46 am 
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Thank you Rick, I would be incredibly grateful if you are able to get some professional advice on this. I don't want to go back to Arcadia whining and sounding ungrateful if it turns out they're quite right and there is no risk of harm. It's too late for today, but I'll see what I can do re the 5 hours timing, as I had already fitted it last night after lights out (before realising there possibly wasn't enough distance) & it's on the same timer as her basking lamp. As a precaution though I removed anything allowed her to easily get within about 18" of the lamp. I've already seen the video you linked to, which is one of the reasons I wanted to make further enquiries, funnily enough it's the same video shared by the facebook group I belong to who are usually spot on with their husbandry advice, but on this occasion they seem to have a difference of opinion. Obviously the priority is Bobbie's health, so I didn't want to go making any bad decisions. :)

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