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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:23 pm 
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SpikeandLizzy wrote:But seeing your set up etc i dont know how you can be bothered to do it all, i sound really lazy dont i ?lol


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When I got Tia she was gravid. I wasnt prepared at all and didnt know what I was doing but managed to hatch 4 eggs. Its a great feeling when you check the incubator and see the little heads poking out :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Our second clutch is now hatching, we've separated the first into two batched due to food fights and minor monstering and the food bill is climbing. 1st week they ate 4 x boxes of baby crix (2 ~ 3 mm), 2nd week 1 x bulk box small crix (3 ~ 5 mm), coming up to 3rd week and consumption has gone up to 2 x bulk boxes small crix. Everything will of course double once the next lot start eating!

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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:00 am 
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Hi Rick

When I initially got Bumblebee he was just going to be a one off pet because I was fascinated and intrigued by them, however, since having him I have now brought a further 3. I brought Skippy under the pretence he was female, when it turned out that he was male I couldn't just get rid of him, not only had I become too attached but also he is almost a pure Sandfire, so I had to get myself a girlie. In doing that I then found Lola, who is the spitting image of Bumblebee, then when out getting the baby food last weekend I then stumbled upon Tink who is very unusual where I am. she looks like she is wearing a camouflage jacket, tree brown and dark green - very interesting for breeding.
Anyway, after reading your posts I wold be extremely interested to hear the final cost, as I am looking to breed next year after the other 3 have had their first shut down.
My question to you though - how did you you go about finding somewhere/ someone to buy the baby beardies as this would be the first thing to get sorted before attempting the breeding process.


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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:39 pm 
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I'm afraid you can't relate Australian experience to the UK simply. I breed a lot of my own feed but still buy in bulk crickets with the weekly bill for around 40 babies varying between $60.00 and $80.00 dollars. We are required to hold a license here to own any native fauna so again this limits the availability of all reptiles which increases the market value. I sell a number of mine to a specialist shop at around $30.00 per baby and privately I can sk $70.00 to $80.00 per dragon. I have to maintain 6 4' vivs to ensure no fighting/dominance games between siblings and each season replace all UV tubes. The occasional vet visit at around $70.00 ~ $100.00 also needs factoring in and as I retain them until 8 weeks old before selling you can see profit margins soon disappear.
If you seriously want to try breeding then my suggestion would be to keep no more than 10 eggs from the first clutch laid freezing the rest plus all later clutches. This way you'll only need to set up one extra 4' viv in that season and will be able to find homes for them a lot easier than 20 ~25 in each of probably 3 clutches. From what I see on UK sites babies are practically given away these days so you do need to research selling them locally - basically try and find a reputable shop who will give you a good price, or be prepared to advertise them privately and possibly keep them for moths until sold. If you need a bit more of a breakdown on setting up and operating vivs for babies do ask I'll give you all the help you need but do remember I personally don't recommend going down that road.

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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:55 am 
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Well another clutch of 17 sold today and I got $350.00 for them. Sounds good until you factor in vets bills of $145.00 and two replacement UV lights at $25.00 each plus food & power! On top of that daily maintenance - preparing food, cleaning, ensuring all are feeding and no bullying going on - takes around an hour, so it really is done more for love than money. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:26 pm 
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Do you feel sad when they go :lol: I would be tempted to keep one :lol: though I suppose when you first bred some ; it was more tempting. You have been breeding many; so I suppose its easier to part with them :lol: How many Dragons do you actually have in total :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:16 am 
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Normally four adults but currently we still have 16 babies as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Hatching
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:34 pm 
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I think i would leave breeding to the experts! So many animals are better than humans in so many ways! They can walk and feed themselves from birth, and it takes a human years!

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