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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:53 pm 
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Spike did the same to us last year after her first clutch. Saw the vet and then had a miraculous recovery :shock: Basically she was exhausted and needed rehydration and a few high protein meals. Hope all turns out OK, but do check that your vet checks her over for retained eggs.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:48 pm 
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She has just eaten lots of roaches!!But i still had to move her under basking light , she was realy cold still

She is not intersted in the pinky , this is the first feed since about 3 days before laying.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:50 pm 
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Took her to the vets.She is ok , lacking calcium and dehydrated.Also she is very light so got strict instructions to fatten her right up.So i got some meal worms, the white worms (cant remember their name) and some fresh pinkys coming on friday

The vet was really nice and helpful.looked her over every inch , said he can feel some possible small impaction so got to remove all sand in her viv now.

He talked me through alot and even showed me some photos of bound eggs that he had removed.He showed me how to make her open her mouth and got to give her 10ml of water a day , and go back for another check up next week.

Oh he gave her some anti biotic for the most common type of parasite incase she has some and got to hope she goes toilet before next week so it can be checked.

cost me £29 in the end so iam very happy and my mind is at ease now with her

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:57 pm 
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Fingers crossed for her return to health. How were you shown to open the mouth? Was it a pulling on the beard with your thumb type trick? I ask as that's what I was shown but would be interested in a less aggressive method if there is one.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:01 pm 
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Thanks Matt...Iam confident she will be fine now :D


Very gently push a finger on each eye at the same time and he will atuomatically open his mouth, she did but then clamped down on the syringe and wouldnt open her mouth so he could get it out :D she finally let go after a minute though

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:02 pm 
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Interesting, I might try that tomorrow with a syringe of food. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:30 pm 
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Well i have just tired it with her and no surprise it did not work, she opened her mouth once but i pooed meself and let go lol thought she was going to bite me! Iam going to try it again later when the other half gets home

The vet made it look so easy!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:49 pm 
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I think my vet tried it quickly but Archimedes isn't the sort of dragon to comply willingly...had to basically force his mouth open by pulling back on the beard!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:55 am 
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Can you explain that abit more please matt.None of us can get her to open her mouth and she needs water and refuses to lick it off when i drip it onto the tip of her nose

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:49 am 
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Just found a new way.

Place her in your lap , bum towards you so she cannot back up to get away.

put your thumb and finger three quarters of the way down her lips , so just under the eyes but on her mouth line, apply some pressure and she will open her mouth..

This just worked with lizzy, she didnt open it all the way but it was enough to get the tip of syringe in and the water down here throat......iam happy now :D She didnt seem to get to stressed with it either.

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Use your vets 'calling card' (or other similar thin card) just place gently between their 'lips' and they will open. We syringe feed our first beardie for weeks and used this method all the time. If you can alternate each side of their mouths :D

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:19 am 
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The method my vet described involved holding your beardie basically with fore finger and thumb around the neck. This should be done gently yet firmly. Using your thumb which is on the mouth side pull gently back on the beard. This should pull the lips apart. At this point try and move your syringe into position, and whilst manipulating the syringe pull back further on the beard to try and prise the dragons mouth open.
If you can get your beardies mouth open another way I'd recommend it as its safe to say this method can be stressful for a dragon, boy do I know that's true.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:56 am 
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I will try that Therru wriggles so much and puts her spikes out :( I was using the syringe from alternat sides to open his mouth and its hard :roll: Im now getting a black beard when I go near him ; just stroke him then and give him a cuddle :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:03 pm 
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Its Horrible, but as i explained to my youngest sometimes you have to be `cruel` to be kind.

So far she seems to be doing ok with the second way i said, although spike had none of it , but luckily she drinks when i drip it on her nose most of the time.Where as Lizzy is an ignorant cow sometimes lol


Thats sounds awful matt....surely that is not to good for them?

If Lizzy gets clever to what we are doing and stops ill deffinatly try your way next Kathryn thanks :D

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Well I hope not, it certainly isn't the gentlest way I've read about but he won't open up any other way.

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